What to Say at the Dealership When Your Car Keeps Having Problems

Written by Gregory R. Jacobs Last updated 7 min read

Key takeaways

  • Describe the symptom, not your guess at the cause: what happens, when, how often, and under what conditions. Use the same words every visit.
  • Read the complaint line on the repair order before you sign. If it doesn't match what you said, ask for it to be corrected.
  • If the shop says 'could not duplicate,' ask what tests were run and whether a technician drove the car with you. Florida requires the repair order to list any test drive and its approximate length (Fla. Stat. § 681.103(4)).
  • Follow every visit with a short written summary by email, and send written notice to the manufacturer when a defect keeps coming back.
  • Stay calm and factual. The service advisor writes the record, and clear, polite facts make an accurate record easier to get.
On this page
  1. How should I describe the problem?
  2. What should I check on the repair order?
  3. What if the dealer says "could not duplicate"?
  4. How do I ask for a test drive with a technician?
  5. When should I put my complaint in writing?
  6. How should I handle a frustrating visit?
  7. Frequently asked questions

Describe the symptom clearly, get it written down the way you said it, and leave with a repair order. If the shop can't find the problem, ask what they tested and whether a technician drove the car with you. After the visit, put a short summary in writing. Those habits produce the records a lemon law claim depends on.

The service advisor isn't the enemy. But the advisor writes the record of your visit, and that record is what a manufacturer will read later. The goal of every visit is a complete, accurate repair order.

How should I describe the problem?

Describe what you notice, not what you think is broken. A symptom is easy to write down and hard to argue with. A guess at the cause can send the technician in the wrong direction.

Cover these five points:

Point Ask yourself Example
What What do I see, hear, feel or smell? "A loud clunk from the front left"
When When did it start? At what mileage? "Started around 4,100 miles"
How often Every drive? Once a week? "Three or four times a week"
Conditions Speed, temperature, gear, load, road? "Turning left at low speed, mostly on cold mornings"
Warnings Any lights, messages or codes? "Steering assist warning came on twice"

Put it together in two or three sentences:

"There's a loud clunk from the front left when I turn left at low speed. It started around 4,100 miles and happens three or four times a week, mostly on cold mornings. The steering assist warning came on twice."

Then use the same words at every visit. Repair orders that describe the problem the same way make it clear it's one defect, not several.

Things to avoid saying

  • "It's probably the transmission." Let the technician diagnose. Describe the jerk instead.
  • "It only happened once." If it's happened more, say how often.
  • "It's not a big deal." You don't have to dramatize, but don't downplay a real problem.
  • "Just check everything." A vague request gets a vague repair order.

What should I check on the repair order?

Read the complaint line before you sign the drop-off copy. It's the sentence that ties this visit to your defect.

Look for:

  1. Your complaint, in words close to yours
  2. The date and the mileage in
  3. Your name and the correct VIN
  4. A note that you showed a video, if you did
  5. A note that this is a repeat visit for the same concern, if it is

If something's wrong, ask the advisor to fix it before you sign. Be specific: "Could you add that it happens when turning left at low speed? That's the important part."

Some states require these details. Florida's law says the repair order after a warranty visit must show any test drive and its approximate length, any diagnosis, all work performed, a description of the problem you reported, the date and mileage in, and the date the work was done (Fla. Stat. § 681.103(4)). Washington requires a similar itemized statement (RCW 19.118.031(5)). See how to document repair visits for the full list.

What if the dealer says "could not duplicate"?

Don't just accept it and leave. Ask what was done, and ask for more testing if the problem comes and goes.

These questions are fair to ask:

  • What tests did the technician run?
  • Was the vehicle driven? For how long, and under what conditions?
  • Were stored trouble codes checked?
  • Is there a service bulletin for this symptom?
  • Can you keep the vehicle longer, or drive it in the conditions I described?

Then show your evidence. A short video of the noise, the warning screen or the shudder gives the technician something to look for.

If the answer is still "could not duplicate," make sure the repair order says what was tested and that you reported the problem. A visit with no fix is still a repair visit with your complaint on record.

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Tell us what has happened with your vehicle. A member of our team will look at your dates and repair orders with you. Reaching out does not create an attorney-client relationship.

How do I ask for a test drive with a technician?

Ask directly and explain the conditions. A ride-along lets you point to the problem as it happens.

Try something like:

"This shows up on the highway after about 15 minutes of driving. Could a technician drive it with me so I can show you when it happens?"

Some dealers will say yes. Some have rules against passengers. If they decline, ask them to test-drive it under the conditions you described, and to note the test drive and its length on the repair order.

When should I put my complaint in writing?

After every visit, and to the manufacturer when the problem keeps coming back. Written records fill gaps the repair order leaves.

A follow-up email after each visit

Send the service advisor a short email the same day. For example:

"Thanks for your help today. To confirm: I brought in the car at 6,250 miles for the clunk from the front left when turning at low speed, my third visit for this. You told me the technician couldn't reproduce it and no parts were replaced. Please let me know if I've got anything wrong."

Keep a copy. It's a dated record in your words.

Written notice to the manufacturer

When a defect keeps coming back, write to the manufacturer, not just the dealer. Many state lemon laws require written notice before a refund or replacement, and some give the manufacturer a final repair chance. The notice address is usually in your warranty booklet. See notice to the manufacturer.

Federal warranty law points the same way. Under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a full warranty can't require you to do anything beyond notifying the warrantor in order to get a repair, unless the warrantor shows the extra duty is reasonable (15 U.S.C. § 2304(b)(1)). And before a consumer sues over a warranty, the warrantor must get a reasonable opportunity to cure (§ 2310(e)).

How should I handle a frustrating visit?

Stay calm and stick to facts. Being polite and organized makes an accurate repair order easier to get, and the repair order is what counts.

  • Bring your log and your videos.
  • Ask questions instead of making accusations.
  • Write down names, dates and what you were told.
  • Don't sign anything you don't understand, such as a release or a "goodwill" agreement. Talk to a lawyer first.

If you're keeping track of visits, the new car problems checklist shows what to do at each stage, and repair attempts explains how states tend to count them.

Frequently asked questions

How should I describe my car's problem to the service advisor?

Describe what you see, hear and feel, and leave the diagnosis to the technician. Say what happens, when it started, how often it happens and what conditions bring it on, such as speed, temperature, gear or load. For example: 'The car jerks when shifting from second to third, usually in the first ten minutes of driving, about four days a week.' Use the same words each visit so the repair orders show the same defect. Bring a video if you have one.

What should I do if the dealer says 'could not duplicate'?

Stay polite and ask questions. What tests did the technician run? Was there a test drive, how long, and under what conditions? Did they check for stored codes or service bulletins? Ask whether they can keep the vehicle longer or drive it under the conditions you described. Show them your video. Then make sure the repair order records your complaint and what was actually done. Florida requires the repair order to list any test drive and its approximate length.

Can I ask to ride along with the technician?

You can ask, and it's often the fastest way to show an intermittent problem. Say something like, 'This happens on the highway after about 15 minutes. Could a technician drive it with me so I can point it out?' Not every dealer will agree, and some have rules about passengers. If they say no, ask them to drive the vehicle under the conditions you described and to note the test drive and its length on the repair order.

Should I tell the dealer I'm thinking about a lemon law claim?

You don't need to. Your job at the service desk is to get the defect described accurately and repaired. Threats rarely help and can make conversations tense. Focus on the facts and on getting a complete repair order. When the defect keeps coming back, send written notice to the manufacturer, which is the step many state lemon laws require. If you want to talk about a claim, talk to a lawyer first.

The dealer says the problem is 'normal' or 'a characteristic of the vehicle.' Now what?

Ask them to write that on the repair order, and ask what it's based on, such as a service bulletin or a comparison with another vehicle. If you believe it's not normal, say so and explain why, for example that it didn't happen when the car was new. Keep the repair order. A written 'operating as designed' note is still a record that you reported the problem on that date. You can also raise it with the manufacturer in writing.

Do I have to put my complaint in writing?

At the dealer, the repair order is your written complaint, so make sure it's right. After each visit, it helps to send a short email to the service advisor summarizing what you reported and what they told you. For the manufacturer, many state lemon laws require written notice before you can get a refund or replacement. Check your warranty booklet for the address and send the notice by a method that gives you proof of delivery.

Gregory R. Jacobs

About the author

Gregory R. Jacobs, Attorney

State Bar of Texas No. 10517300 · Verify on texasbar.com

Gregory R. Jacobs is a Texas-licensed attorney (State Bar of Texas No. 10517300, licensed 1980) and the responsible attorney for SkyRidge Law P.C.

Sources

  1. Fla. Stat. § 681.103 (repair order must list test drive, diagnosis, work and reported problem)
  2. RCW 19.118.031 (Washington: dealer must provide itemized repair statement)
  3. 15 U.S.C. § 2304 (federal minimum standards for full warranties; notification duty)
  4. 15 U.S.C. § 2310 (remedies; opportunity to cure)

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